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Offline SWSF Eidolon

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Re: Simming Discussion
« Reply #315 on: September 10, 2021, 06:22:15 PM »
  Thats what they said about the casino and lottery money, but that doesn't seem to go very far.

  It's also a sad diagnosis of our society that those things are not just funded to high hell as the norm instead of having to pull together peanuts for them by taxing us on our vices.
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Offline Ramano

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« Reply #316 on: September 11, 2021, 10:02:42 AM »
Convenience? Where? Last time i went to illinois to a shop i stood in line for 3hrs to be over charged for low quality weed. My dealer is faster, cheaper, is closer, and i dont have to stand in a line. Where is all this convenience you are paying for? Sorry sweetheart, you arent paying for convenience, youre just wasting money.

As far as the taxes, what Eid said. And Wi doesnt allow legalized gambling either. We fund our schools and roads with property and sales tax like normal people. We dont need to exploit drug addicts.

See, this is why history is so important in school. You people learned nothing from prohibition and literally let the gov do it all over again. You arent funding schools and roads, you are paying for farmers to employ illegal aliens, and Amazon to not have to pay any taxes. Oh, and lets not forget fattening the wallets of all the politicians making these laws.
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« Reply #317 on: September 11, 2021, 10:28:05 AM »
Proof of point, here in wisconsin, we dont want it legalized, simply decriminalized. Yes there is a difference. And every time they put it up for a vote thats what we tell them. 9 successful votes and still nothing, from dems or reps! Because we wont let them make a bunch of money off us, which is all they really want.

So you keep your expensive electric cars that dont work in the snow, your high taxes you need for all those safety net programs, and your over priced INconvenience calling it whatever you want to feel better about it. Take a bucket of piss and call it "grandmas peach tea" for all i care. You arent fooling the rest of us. We dont want it.
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Offline SWSF Eidolon

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Re: Simming Discussion
« Reply #318 on: September 11, 2021, 10:41:43 AM »
I was actually referring to the whole country and american society as a monolith.

Wisconsin has lottery and casinos, that is legalized gambling.  Your public school ranking is however respectable based on pupil-teacher ratios, HS diploma % attainment and SAT scores.

I'm happy with legal bud.  People I know can make a decent living on it now and there are legal protections which is a pretty valuable position when considering the historical contexts you refer to.

Im not familiar with WIs specific laws but decriminalization often addresses only personal possession and use, and when it does concern growing, it is a limited number not suitable for commercial production, and it often still includes civil fines.  It also means there is limited if zero economic growth for the state.
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« Reply #319 on: September 11, 2021, 10:45:03 AM »
Time out. Yes we have lottery (by demand of the people) however there are no Casinos in "wisconsin". All casinos are located on indian reservations which by our state law are considered sovereign land. They dont pay taxes to our state nor are they bound by any of our state laws. They are not wisconsin casinos.
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Re: Simming Discussion
« Reply #320 on: September 11, 2021, 10:55:10 AM »

  The profits of the casino and the land is not taxable yes but I believe as with all native land rights, regarding Casinos, Non Native Winnings are witholding taxable and all non-native employees at those casinos who have jobs are income taxed standard and all commercial goods that the casino purchases from it's vendors are sales taxed.  There are probably some other angles I am not considering such as contractors who do construction/maintenance work in the structures as well.
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Re: Simming Discussion
« Reply #321 on: September 11, 2021, 10:56:20 AM »
Exactly Eid. We arent looking to make a few people rich, we just dont want to go to jail for smoking a joint. Why does someone have to make money off it for it to be legal? We dont like paying more taxes than necessary. Its why our state is still cheap to live in. Ill sell you my house right now. 1864sqft (including the basement) $75,000. And thats only because there are liens all over it from my divorce, lol.
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« Reply #322 on: September 11, 2021, 11:02:03 AM »
Yeah im not sure on the specifics of how it works i just know our politicians are always screaming about how the indian casinos dont pay taxes. Both sides, so it cant be all theater. They wanted to build a casino in my city for the last 20yrs but they would have to create a new indian reservation in part of the city which created a whole bunch of logistical issues and fell apart after people started learning what our state laws allow an indian reservation to do here.
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Offline SWSF Hoppus

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Re: Simming Discussion
« Reply #323 on: September 13, 2021, 09:32:48 AM »
@eid wrt LoE obviously I need you to do the map and planet list. I'm not decided on scale or number or number of systems, yet, though...
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Re: Simming Discussion
« Reply #324 on: September 16, 2021, 01:56:14 AM »
Considering we are probably going to have like 4 players, smaller scale would be better
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Re: Simming Discussion
« Reply #325 on: September 16, 2021, 07:17:53 AM »
Oh we are gonna have more than 4...
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Offline SWSF Eidolon

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Re: Simming Discussion
« Reply #326 on: September 17, 2021, 08:06:50 PM »
The emperor does not share your optimistic appraisal of the situation.  :)


Keep calm and quote star wars!
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Re: Simming Discussion
« Reply #327 on: February 06, 2022, 06:54:53 PM »
Quote from: SWSF Eidolon on September 17, 2021, 08:06:50 PM
The emperor does not share your optimistic appraisal of the situation.  :)


Keep calm and quote star wars!
You son of a bitch, I'm in
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Re: Simming Discussion
« Reply #328 on: February 13, 2022, 09:52:23 PM »
I miss simming. I want it back in my life.

Make it so! 
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Re: Simming Discussion
« Reply #329 on: February 14, 2022, 01:52:47 PM »
Now... if only one existed to play. Lol. We tried to put a couple of them together but we get through one mock battle and thats generally the last we hear of them. 

Personally the one i was most looking forward to was where no one got to be part of the big factions and the ships were all customizable. But if i recall there were necessary game play aspects we couldnt quantify on paper.
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