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Star Wars: The Crimson Covenant / Re: CC: Corellian Birthright
« Last post by Syren on June 17, 2025, 06:42:25 PM »
“Oh, ye of little faith
Remember your twisted fate
Heaven is just a game
Not meant to last
There is no other gate
Remember your trials and pain
That bind you every day
These too shall pass
Let not your heart be troubled.”


-Lady Blackbird


Corellian Sector

Drall

Gemma Masterton sings into a vibrant verdant wonderland, lush and teeming with life.


It was a voice once heard by many. One rich with possibilities. Now it drifts through these lonely forests as she sprawls across a smooth outcropping of rock, warmed by latticed beams of sunlight. The transfixing notes free her from some of the resentment seemingly stuck to her like an inky pitch. A release into the living world around her. The vast foliage that swallows them in secrecy and shadows presents a unique opportunity to ponder the perilous distinction between victory and victimhood as it relates to their current situation.


She’s been selfish and unkind. Anger, quaking and molten, runs through her at the many oppressive expectations. Everyone wants something from them. Even the Jedi. Good or evil – two concepts rendered meaningless by their overuse and questionable application – begin to feel familiar beneath a grand enquiry. What does it mean to be a Masterton anyway? There is history attached to the name, a precedent set. Only some of it is true, and the rest is shaped by the stories others tell.


Nothing about where they came from is natural. The same point of origin, different paths and worlds, all lead back to destruction. She has both laughed and cried at and with this knowledge. The events of their lives the direct result of some plot or scheme they have reacted to, for better or worse. The shimmering threads of fate are difficult to predict with complete accuracy despite any claims to the contrary. She cannot imagine the Voss-Ra planned for every uppity interloper bent on using the prophecy for their own ends. If The Four are so integral to it all, it is not anyone else’s to claim or use, which means Adubell is more than a misguided nuisance. The depth of her delusion puts everything at risk. A greater threat to these ancient plans than any one of them. Mara’s words have tumbled through her mind, and with each passing day, she becomes more convinced of their plan.


What some see as fatalism, Gemma sees as agency. They are actively engaging in the prophecy. Really leaning in. Nevylinn, predictably, does not condone this approach and urges consideration and caution. She agreed to help Gemma strike a balance between the dueling aspects of the Force, but at every turn, she crumbles before her own rage. The reality of what she must do clashes with the life she envisioned for herself, the one she wishes she could have if not for, well, everything. The love, the money, and the happy ending. She has dabbled in acceptance, but it brings little consolation. Self-involved as she may be, she would not put anyone else through this. Another cycle that claims more lives. It may seem defeatist, but defeating Dahlia isn’t worth it at this point. No one ever said she couldn’t lose after she’d won. Such a lovely little loophole, a tear in the grandest of plans. Mara may be convinced their roles are not set, but where Dahlia is concerned, the heel most certainly fits.


To die is to ask a lot of someone. Yet, that is what she, Dane, and Riley must do to end it. But they must stop Adubell first. Keep her from going after Dahlia by diverting her attention here. A plan wild enough to work, even amongst the whims of romance. The others do not have to follow them into the underworld. She would find comfort in the sacrifice, knowing they would make things right again. Maybe she is the delusional one.


Then again, maybe not.


*

In the sparsely accented training space, deep in the dense woods, Nevylinn tests her again and again. Her form is impeccable after so much practice that it becomes more a matter of motive than skill.


“You do realize she will come for us,” Gemma prods, deflecting an attack. “Mara told us the Infiltrator made sure she knew Adubell would be the one to take Riley from her.”


“Yes.”


“How do you reconcile that? Is that the will of the Force? For the virtually unkillable replica of your fallen sister to wipe The Four from existence, all so that she can use the Sith to bring more terror to the galaxy?”


Nevylinn does not falter in the face of these glib comments meant to unsteady her.


“I have made my peace with what must be done.”


“You say that now.”


She strikes suddenly, but Gemma counters easily as they circle each other. Nevylinn commends the dedication, how Gemma has used their time to hone her abilities despite her recovery. Spite being the operative word embedded there. For every breath of clarity she gains, she slips back into anger so quickly and allows the purported sins of the past to push her over the line. Nevylinn is there to pull her back, to keep her from giving in entirely, but they teeter on a blade's edge. As she had witnessed with her sister, after starting down the dark path, there are few compelling reasons to turn back. The temptation is too immense, the power too great. She aims to reinforce a different solution.


“You are one to talk. There is another way to put these fears and machinations to rest.”


“I'm aware.”


“Yet you resist, take no measurable steps to achieve it. Anger is a byproduct of fear, and you, Gemma Masterton, have been frightened for most of your life. Everything that has happened happened because The Four were forced into making terrible choices. Situations that would otherwise not have occurred were not for the intervention of others. Do not forget that I knew Melanie Masterton. More so than you.”


It is a truth that still stings, but Gemma is prepared for it. She knew the living, breathing Jedi Melanie Masterton, not the pale shade she encountered. Nevylinn is satisfied that she doesn’t take the bait this time and continues.


“We trained together before I joined the Council on Chandaar. She was bright and beautiful and damaged and so very certain. But that certainty came from things someone else told her. Those ideas were placed in Melanie’s mind, and they have now been placed in yours. What seemed to anyone else like a spectacular tragedy unfolding mercilessly across the Holo was only ever the expected result of a series of calculated triggers. You know better and can therefore choose another path. You do not need to die to end this, but it does mean you have to pull it out by the root – defeat the Voss-Ra and reclaim your lives. Set about righting the wrongs of the prophecy yourself, not leave it to us to clean up your mess once you are gone.”


Gemma’s attack is precise but restrained, fighting against the pulsing darkness in her heart. They have been cleaning up the Jedi’s mess since they were driven from Chandaar. So many lives were shattered and extinguished because of their blindness. The audacity.


“You think we are taking the easy way out? None of this has been easy, Nevylinn.”


“I never said it was. Those are your thoughts, your words. The focus on blame clouds your judgment. It makes you an easy target for their lies.”


“Except they aren’t all lies, are they? I know we are being manipulated and used, but I also know there are forces at work here beyond the plans of scheming monsters that have haunted my dreams since I was a child. Beyond knowing Riley’s face before I knew his name. Both of those things can be true.”


“Many things can be true, Gemma. Truth does not make something right.”


Their sabers clash again, with Gemma taking a more offensive posture. The fight is alive within her. Nevylinn can feel the emotions clawing at her, distorting her sense of self and purpose. To feel unmoored in this life is a terrifying thing indeed, and she is desperately trying to be an anchor.


“The Four were united again for a reason. We cannot deny what we felt, what we did on Hesperidum when we were all together. There was a power far greater than imagination at work there. Our predecessors prevented the Empire from prevailing, and the Sith never rose, and now we are the pendulum swinging in the opposite direction. Our lives are tied to the others named in the prophecy, and the horror will continue, repeatedly, until what they saw comes to pass. Only then can it be stopped. The power behind the prophecy is more than those who seek to control it.”

“I know you believe that,” Nevylinn replies, tone not entirely free of judgment. “Outside of Riley's birth, do you know what happened aboard Centerpoint Station?”


"I know Melanie killed Karen Winton.”


“Who told you that?"


“Dahlia."


“And who told her that?”


Her face falls, remembering who ultimately orchestrated their kidnapping as children, who turned Dahlia in the first place, “Adubell…”


Nevylinn lets it hang there. So much action ignited on whispers. An unbridled fury fills the space, but Gemma, surprisingly, deactivates her saber and steps back. She feels the Force course through her, competing currents of very different streams, as the blackness begins to bleed from her vision. Yet the ache remains deep and painful.


“That only suggests she would use us against each other to get what she wants. Dahlia had proof.”


“Be that as it may, you are not as pragmatic as you fancy yourself, and react in ways they expect you to. The way Melanie no doubt reacted when she reasoned out that version of the story’s natural conclusion. It was designed to create conflict. Look at the situation from an outsider’s perspective, removed from attachment or emotion.


Gellar was already dead, and Patten was in labor on a station she could not escape from. Masterton thought she was their only hope, and she acted on impulse, ignited by what she thought she knew. She could not fathom that she could be wrong. It was determination that bordered on obsession, fueled by years of trauma. Trauma they inflicted on everyone involved. They led her to that conclusion, and they were all on that station for a reason. If you are looking for blame, Gemma, there it is. By your logic, Melanie doomed you all to this as someone in cycles before doomed everyone else who came after.”


“She didn’t know!” Gemma bites out, patience waning.


“She didn’t want to know! You don’t even want to know. You can’t change it. Can’t undo what has been done. The Voss-Ra expected Winton to win, and when she didn’t, they were forced to reassess the situation, which is when they turned their attention to all of you. Survivors, children. They sought you out, assigned roles to you, terrorized you, and then sat back and marveled at their clairvoyance and power when this had all been part of an elaborate fabrication they conjured from their corrupted magics.
The truth is, the Voss-Ra is always going to find a target, another in your scattered bloodline somewhere to play those parts in their visions. You must take responsibility for your actions and control your feelings. You can stop this.”

“I don’t even know where they are!”


“Yes, you do. They were present at Empress Teta, but that was a sanctuary, not their home. You’ve seen them in your dreams. You’ve sought out and fought those in the form of others who tried to get close to you. There is a connection. Use that to find them.”


“It goes deeper than that. All of this is not merely the result of their blind faith. They didn't will this into existence.”


Nevylinn has had quite a bit of time to ponder these things, and while she concedes there are esoteric elements and undercurrents, it is firmly rooted in the dark side of the Force. Even actions taken in the name of the greater good leave bitter traces of a deeper corruption of the self. If the intended outcome is for the dark to triumph over the light, then anything done in service of that would hold darkness. The contingency could create even greater suffering than another cycle. That is why they must stop Adubell and the Voss-Ra. She sighs and smoothes the edge from her voice.


“Perhaps not, but you are not bound by their needs or their whims. I am not demanding your forgiveness, nor even asking you to trust me. I am asking you to trust in yourselves. There are more lives at stake than your own. You asked for my help and I have given it. All I ask in return is that you consider the alternative. One that may avoid this dreadful outcome you’ve resigned yourselves to. You may be aware of it, but will you give it the attention you give your contingency? Will you try?”


Gemma apprises the face of the Jedi who left them to fend for themselves warily.


All part of a larger problem with the codes and mysticism that shroud their ways. They point fingers at others, wielding variations of the same energy with beliefs no more outlandish than their own. Still, beneath a wounded surface, she knows the intent is not hostile. Futile, perhaps, but not hostile. The Jedi seek a peaceful path despite the significant and growing body count. She struggles to meet her in the middle, to not scream about how unrealistic those ideals are, and not dismiss her outright, as is her immediate inclination. Peace is not how they win. It may be in vain, a moot point in the larger scheme, but she sees they need hope, and she would not deny them that. They will need them in the fight to come. Like it or not, they are in this together.

“Alright, Nevylinn. I will.”





-TBC
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Star Wars: The Crimson Covenant / Re: CC: Corporate Greed
« Last post by Syren on May 26, 2025, 03:15:24 PM »
“Well do you see
The futures holidays are for me
Just let me know
Where to go
Where you go after the fall.”


-Zero 7


Corporate Sector

Etti IV: Mondder

They keep it together until they are alone.

 
A united front in the face of yet another tragedy and all the suspicion it arouses. Inside the masterfully decorated penthouse atop the Gellar tower is another story. Taarek has finally pieced together that despite his best efforts to spare the Force-sensitives he managed to get off the capital from the Republic’s unjust actions, it may have been a setup all along. He hates feeling as though he has been used. He put his own life and safety on the line for what he felt was the right thing, when in actuality it may have been a clever ruse in service to the prophecy. His eyes land on Shendo’s face, expression tight. He does not outright accuse him, but it is enough.


Shendo is at his breaking point. He stares wearily at the group.


“I do not know how else to prove myself to all of you! I have gone along with your insane schemes, fought alongside you, followed you through danger, and still chose to come here with you and Demaris. I chose this, no one else. What else must I do to convince you?”


“We do not know that much about you. You, like Lysette, have kept to the sidelines. Inconspicuous and watchful. Your contempt for us is barely concealed. Perhaps that is on us for not looking more closely at the company we kept, but you must admit you see the pattern we now do."


“This is what they want,” Demaris says calmly, wading into the fray between them. “To sow division. Make us turn on each other.”


“And if we trusted too blindly? What if we have only seen what we wanted to see?”


It comes not from a place of malice but of history. His father, Seneca Cirque, trusted blindly in a Masterton, too. Followed her right into the grave. Taarek thought he had come to terms with that, in his own ways, careful never to project the path Melanie took with the one Gemma charts for them now. Melanie Masterton did not know what they knew. Neither did his father. If the prophecy is to be believed, and he has witnessed so much evidence to indicate it is, they were all doomed to those fates. But now, traitors among them, and several are dead. His faith has begun to slip, and he wonders if they are dooming themselves as well.


“All I am saying is that Shendo could have been sent for us and not even know it. He could have fallen victim to whatever dark magics that grey-skinned woman has been working on us. We never saw it in the others because we did not want to see it.”


“Maybe so,” Dane offers carefully, drink already in hand. “It is a disturbing pattern, and a fair question. We are placing our lives in your hands.”


“Exactly.”


Roman removes his helmet, “What do you suggest we do? Lock him up? Send him away? They may be counting on that to further hinder our ability to provide security for those we were sent here to protect.”


“He is right, Taarek. When we are questioning each other, we are not questioning what is happening around us. With everything going on in the Corellian Sector, Riley put himself at risk to reach out to us. To give us the information we now have. It is a lot to process, but we cannot lose focus now.”


“So, we sleep with one eye open, wondering when he’ll turn on us? We would be fools if what happened did not inform our actions.”


“I am not turning on anyone!” Shendo growls sharply, his face twisted. “You think I wanted these powers? This connection to the Force? I was perfectly content with the life I had scraped together for myself on Chandaar when genetics made me a Republic target, something they needed to purge from their society and systems. It wasn’t much, but it was my own. You offered to help me, and I took that help because I had no other choice. Are you saying you would turn on me instead? Now? After everything?”


He frowns, “I want to be able to trust you.”


“Then trust me.”


It has become a showdown. The tension is palpable, rising into a terrifying crescendo when Alka’s com rings. Saved by the bleep. She excuses herself and steps out onto the deck to answer it. An amber sun, sinking toward the horizon, drapes the cityscape of Mondder in angular shadows. It seems everything is an ominous symbol these days. The air cools her flushed face as she brings the device up.


“Yes?”


“You never checked in,” Garron Prescott says tiredly.


She nearly chokes, lowering her voice to a tense hiss, “Are you out of your mind? Don’t answer that. We’ve been busy.”


“And I grew tired of waiting for your call. Don’t worry, it’s not traceable. How did it go?”


She tells him everything with the Direx Board went well, but not before Corinthos made his objections known.


“Not surprising considering what he has lost. What else? We need to be quick, Lady Dawning.”


“He has support,” she mutters dully, absently rubbing a temple. “Support, I fear, may grow into a coalition against Dane, if not properly managed. The vote to oust him failed, but we know who Corinthos has at his side.”


“Good, we can use that. Tell me.”


Alka swallows hard and names all three of them.


“Thank you, I’ll look into it. We will speak soon.”


The com line goes dead.


Garron had been Rutherford Gellar’s most trusted advisor and confidante, posing as a valet and hired hand. He knows the ins and outs of the Sector better than anyone, which is how he managed to escape custody and remain hidden. She knows she would have likely been killed at her estate on D’ian had he not intervened, and so she makes good on her promise to inform him, careful to leave out any proprietary or incriminating pieces of business discussed. He only has the details he needs…for now.


Dane startles her, “You good?”


She whirls around, “Always something with the company. Creative clashes, etcetera, etcetera. You know directors.”


“Surely they can spare you for a production.”


“I cannot shirk my prima duties for the Direx Board entirely. Besides, I love it. The feeling of the stage beneath the points of my toes. The thrill of it all.”


She shifts the conversation elsewhere.


“Everything okay in there? It was getting pretty heated.”


He shrugs, “A tenuous truce, but it is the best we can hope for. Shendo agreed to test in our labs to probe any signs of mental tampering. Taarek agreed to back off. Trust must go both ways, right?”


“Right.”


She hates lying to him, but it is the only way. Keep Garron away from him, focused on running interference that would clear their path, while laying the groundwork to lure him out when they must. Dane continues to struggle with this, but the Jedi made compelling points that she sees slowly settling over him. Garron Prescott is not a variable they can afford to run loose for long, and Dane knows it.
He pulls her into his arms, and she rests her head against the crook of his shoulder.

“You look so hot when you’re troubled. I can barely contain myself.”

She sighs, annoyed, “Somehow, you manage. What a mess.”


“Yes, but it is our mess. We’ll deal.”


“Whatever you need to tell yourself. I’m still a bit hazy on your focus now that we’ve been formally inducted into the Direx Board. That went better than it should have, but we are not out of the woods. Your veiled threats may only buy us some time. Some on that board are not cool with us being there, which could inspire…a more determined effort.”


“Haters gonna hate, babe. We do what we can do. We amass wealth to fund our little venture and maintain dominance in the markets. Contingencies aren’t cheap, you know.”


“Riley Patten has credits. Isn’t he, like, a bah-gillionaire or something?”


Dane huffs, smirking.


“True enough. Unfortunately, that Patten punks’ profile would make any movement of those credits or purchases subject to intense scrutiny, especially if he were allocating them toward, say, more morally ambiguous industries in the Corporate Sector. The Corellians are on high alert these days, and they have their own problems, which I am sure Gemma is only adding to. We need to raise capital ourselves and retain some liquidity in these uncertain times. Agility is key with this much ambiguity.”


“And if we do not need the contingency?”


He is sure they’d be able to package, market, and sell it as a solution to someone else, despite the obvious ethical objections. The highest echelon of the Sector would throw enough credits at him than he could spend in five lifetimes for the chance to secure their legacies so completely. Heirs and spares on tap to divide and conquer. His genetics have plenty of lethal applications, but better in his hands than anyone else’s.


“Something tells me it won't matter in the end.”


“But you do think it is possible? You think Gemma and Riley can stop the Voss-Ra’s plans?”


In truth, neither of them knows what that truly means. Although prophecy is a slippery, unstable thing - something to leverage and bend - can it ever really be thwarted? Dane tries not to sound as skeptical as he feels. She, like the others, needs something to hold on to.


“I know they will certainly try. This Adubell woman has attempted to skew things in her favor but failed to eliminate any of The Four so far. That, at least, works in our favor. We’ve proven ourselves more resourceful than she anticipated. Even Dahlia needs to play offense on this one, which I hope, for our sake, she does. Her death would doom all of us to a new cycle, so we either need to debunk the prophecy or fulfill it, whichever comes first. Abudell clearly has a lot of tricks up her delusional sleeve, and Shendo could be just another she pulls out.”


“Do you honestly believe that?”


“I believe in the possibility, however unlikely. Turning those who have ingratiated themselves with us is clever. Not something we expected. An opportunity to do both physical and emotional damage. A bit of a wager, trying that a third time without anyone comparing notes and taking action. I don’t want us at each other’s throats, but we must be sure, especially if he is someone overseeing your safety. We’re gambling enough with that as it is.”


“And my stalker? Could there be a connection? The Jedi seem to think there is a mystical element that tracks if Sirona was subject to a psychic attack.”


“Again, possible. She could have Force-sensitive agents at her disposal, similar to Lysette or Sirona, but the ones we know of were accounted for during that time. I admit the stalking could have been the start of a larger escalation that includes this kind of intimidation, but Irulan had a point. Someone knowing about the lie doesn’t necessarily mean they know the truth. They could be trying to get us to implicate ourselves.”


“Like do the right thing?” she laughs, stepping back to look up into his face. “Boy, have they misread their audience. That may be just as unlikely. If it’s not Garron or Shendo or someone on the Direx Board, who else is there? I mean, it could be more obvious than we think. What if Balthazar Nash returned to make us pay for what we did to him? He is the target of the lie, after all. Our testimony got him exiled, and Gellar Industries acquired Palace Arms in a hostile takeover. It would make the most sense.”


“We didn’t kill Preston, that’s for sure, but if Nash returned, he wouldn’t be able to stay hidden for long. I do see your point. If that is the case, what is he waiting for? Nash would waste no time dispatching us to reclaim what he lost.”


“Suffering is the point, Dane. That is what this all comes back to.”


Suffering would be a luxury someone standing to profit in the Sector would not afford us. Not when time is money. Prolonging the process means they want more, and only one group comes to mind that has made several attempts over the years and failed to find a foothold in pulling our strings. If they are not waiting for us to confess, then escalation could be an attempt to make us fall in line. Someone just as obvious as the Chiss, and knows about the lie.”


“What? Who?”


A sly grin spreads across Dane’s face.


“It may be time to have that drink with Burke Pallus.”







-TBC
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OOC Cantina / Re: Andor Season 2
« Last post by SWSF Eidolon on May 22, 2025, 06:08:32 PM »
The chemistry was positively there between them but like real estate love is all timing and it seems like he kept that boundary.  The most passionate moment between them really was the end as the blast wave loomed with haste.


There is the question of what/if he knew of Bixs internal motivation for leaving and then that swaddling bundle of rebel spawn.  Vel makes allusions near close it seems like but very vague and more like hope than hints of Bix having made right choice and no inkling of l'enfant.



But for Cas in Jyn, he probably has not looked at a woman the same way since Bix.  Granted we don't get to see two seasons of her life, but Jyn is portrayed as even a stronger fighter and stronger spirited than Bix (granted give some leeway due to the torture of wailing alien babies she endured).  Also while Bix looked to the bigger picture in structure and organization of Yavin while Cas was willing to leave it all behind, Jyn also was not big on the Rebel Command and structure, a lot or all of which probably came from her time with Saw.
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OOC Cantina / Re: Andor Season 2
« Last post by Syren on May 21, 2025, 10:46:49 AM »
Saw some interesting discourse re: was there romantic chemistry between Cassian and Jyn in R1?

Based on what we now know, his heart was still with Bix, but it had been over a year, so imagine our boy was quite frisky. So, maybe? There were what could be interpreted as suggestive looks throughout, but ultimately I think he respected her for going all in to get those goddamn plans. And, you know, pewpew!

It does make that final shot of Bix looking out across the fields, wondering if one day Cassian's ship will appear there, far more tragic.
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OOC Cantina / Re: Andor Season 2
« Last post by Syren on May 17, 2025, 12:17:53 AM »
Finished my Rogue One rewatch and goddamn that is a solid story—an epic piece of the larger fight to come. It hangs together so well.

Knowing that on Yavin, Kleya, Vel, Wilmon, and Dreena were out there, although unseen, was strangely comforting to me. Leia too, given that Threepio and R2 were there and they all launched for Scarif aboard the Tantive IV. It gave additional context to all the things I had wondered about as a child when I first watched A New Hope. Where was Leia coming from? How did she get those plans? How did they get to that point? Jumping into the story so suddenly and without a frame of reference drove me insane over the years, but I am grateful, despite my general distaste for the corporate cash-grabs along the way, that we finally got this to see and understand what it took to rebel against the Galactic Empire.

My only thing that made me go hmmm is when, on Jedha, while they were in the cell, Cassian tells the others it's a first for him, which we know isn't true because he was imprisoned on Narkina 5. Now, he may have just been covering, considering he did not know whether he could trust them yet, but it still bugged me a little. A quibble, although a minor one. I suppose holistically Star Wars canon has been shot to shit and means nothing, aside from what it means to us.

Reminiscing a bit, when Vel told Cassian not to wait too long to reconnect with Bix it is because she waited too long to do so with Cinta, and she doesn't want him to waste that time, even though we all know he would be dead soon. I think Kleya was more of a leader than Luthen - by his own admission, he had been cut off for too long - and she kept him focused, grounded. There were times he teetered on being erratic, doubtful even, and she calmly, ruthlessly set him back on the path. I thought for a moment Kleya might be Andor's sister, but that has been debunked by Gilroy. It wouldn't make sense anyway when I really think about it. Leaving that unresolved, whether that be to constraints of the rushed final structure or a deliberate choice, resonates as something, someone Cassian could not save. It haunted him even in those final days.

I agree with you, Eid, that Dedra and Syril shared a belief in order, but Syril's belief was still tied to a humanity Dedra had suppressed for power. It ended their relationship, and it ended her career. She got order alright - the tidy, restrictive order of an authoritarian system she perpetuated.

I think there was confirmation that the planet Luthan and young Kleya were on was, in fact, Naboo, which was quite a cool throwback.

Gonna have to sit with this a while, but ultimately, I am entirely satisfied with this entry in the series. Really hoping Gilroy or others decide to tell other tales with such reverence for the characters and story.

Cheers!
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OOC Cantina / Re: Andor Season 2
« Last post by SWSF Eidolon on May 16, 2025, 02:52:19 PM »
Just rewatched final 3 instead of my usual work post beer-lunch desk-nap- my favorite final take aways..

Luthen to Dedra

  "There's a whole galaxy out there waiting to disgust you."



Is something I've picked up on whole series but now finally realizing what makes her such a draw  is the uncomfortable/adjustment facial expressions when in scenario after scenario she lays down what she believes to be her trump card but still gets a defiant reaction.  In this sense she is a bit of an automaton in being a slave to her preference for perfect order, which she and Syril shared in common, though Syril still drew distinction between his desire for order and his own humanity.  The final Narkina scene with her when she breaks is an incredibly fucked up kind of rebirth.  Her desire for order, her service to the new order, her final plight. She is broken now but her mind has awoken.
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OOC Cantina / Re: Andor Season 2
« Last post by SWSF Eidolon on May 16, 2025, 10:03:10 AM »
Done.

Amazing tale.  Best SW series format material by far.

Bix and the baby-  it'll be a Forcie.  Has to be.  Maybe NJO appearance if they actually are doing it.  Great explanation for her departure, it all fits awesome.

Dedra at Narkina????? And then she shows emotion?!  Every body has a breaking point.

Partagaz scene and end.  Pure gold.


When Cassian is with the Rebel Command at Yavin, it seemed inferred with his tone to everyone when he mentioned he got Mothma out the senate, but I woulda liked a bit more blatant statement to Bail about if everyone had gone with his plan, Mon would be with the ISB.


I woulda also liked to see a more aggressive speech from Mothma from Yavin cast to HoloNet, bordering on or actually being the Delcaration of Rebellion.

K2 is great.  It's gotta be hard to do a Droid and measure up to Threepio and Artoo but he does.  His reminisce of the parade with 200 KX units and the Emperor was nice touch, it sounded almost like a fond recollection, showing an interesting twist in his new and old programming.

Filoni was at top of my list.  Gilroy has usurped him.  Really hope they get more SW out of that guy or at least his work inspires more of this 'mature' story telling angle.


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OOC Cantina / Re: Andor Season 2
« Last post by Syren on May 15, 2025, 09:41:53 PM »
Wait, is Kleya...? Nooo, whaaa

My darling ISB mo, a human shield. Pouring one out for your sassy ass, babes.

Respect to the officer for giving Partagaz a moment.

They done Dedra diiirty.

Bix! Goddamn, I'm good. It's almost like I've been writing a highly dramatic Holo drama for more than a decade.

Mothma roughing it - I do like that they bridged where she was prior and where she is in R1, tonally speaking. I was always mystified as to why she wasn't more assertive in R1, but even the rebellion has skeptical bureaucrats.

Still digesting, but yeah, this was solid. Prestige TV Star Wars.

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OOC Cantina / Re: Andor Season 2
« Last post by gallpizi on May 14, 2025, 11:35:41 PM »
I get what you are saying Med and when I was halfway through Ep 2 I was feeling the same way. And then the storytelling choice grew heavily on me. I enjoy that we don't know. It leaves them room to expand in print media. It leaves it up to our imagination. I don't need to see it all. I've been around PTSD enough that I don't need to see Bix between 3-4 all fucked up in the head. I don't need to see Mon do more than get drunk and dance and forget she allowed her childhood friend to be killed and her daughter married off. 

I like that we can imagine it as we want.
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OOC Cantina / Re: Andor Season 2
« Last post by Medivh on May 14, 2025, 05:48:00 PM »
Same - I only watched ep 10 yesterday and will space the others out this week before settling in with a R1 rewatch to cap it off.

See, this is where I think the truncated seasons hurts the show - what we got here with Luthen and Kleya's relationship building toward the inevitable ending/action she would need to perform in service to the cause would have been far more beautifully spun over the course of a season, weaving their history in and out, which would then make the outcome hit much harder. Not that it didn't - it absolutely did.

Kleya is a badass - never underestimate what a gal can do with just an outfit change. Once I saw her in those heeled ankle boots gathering herself in the empty safehouse for what must be done, I was like, yeah, girl. Yeah. You got this. You can do this.

I very much enjoyed the banter between Dedra and Luthen, she almost came off as likeable for a moment, but we all know better.

Previously, I was a bit disappointed with how they handled Bix, so I'm hoping they may tie something up with the last two episodes. I thought it was kind of cheap to have her just bounce, without even a pregnancy reveal or something equally dramatic. We never got to see her heal or be swallowed by the trauma - but it did look like she pulled herself out of it, made a chill life with our boy despite the rising rebellion, but ultimately knew his focus would be split if she stayed. It didn't ring as much of agency as I would have liked, but sad boy Andor is a dangerous Andor.

Excited to see how they end this!
Since you haven't see it all, I will do my best to avoid spoilers.
I will say this:  I liked the last three arcs, and I really enjoyed those episodes.
I did not like episodes 1, 2, 3,  - that Andor went on a mission is cool, but didn't add to the story.  If there was a whole season of micro-missions, it might have made sense, but for a whole arc on stealing a fighter (which by the way, didn't show up in later episodes, so it didn't move the story forward), seemed like a waste, especially since that is the only thing we saw him do that entire year. That Mon Mothma married off her daughter was yes, a continuation from season 1, but again, that was it.
If year 1 had been a full season, we'd have seen when her close childhood friend mysteriously died in a tragic accident, and Mon Mothma grieving over it, and feeling conflicted for the role she had in his death. Nope, just skip ahead.

Bix - Bix got her revenge (episode 6, I think).  But in 4 years, that was the only affirmative thing she did.  In 1-3, she was waiting for Andor, in 4-6, she was, in the safehouse, largely, waiting for Andor, in 7-9, she was on Yavin, yup, waiting for Andor.  We know she was dealing with PTSD.  But that doesn't cover half of what she did.  We assume she had recovered enough that between 6 and 7, she was out on missions, helping set up Yavin, something.  But no narrative follow up there.  Just the next bounce to a year later

The same is true of the remaining arcs. There was so much reaction we didn't get to see; follow up after the Ghorman massacre (or even lead up to the Ghorman massacre).

The last three episodes - again, no spoilers - were satisfying because we know there is a continuation, we know exactly what happens next (Rogue 1, ANH, etc.).
And I liked how they resolved certain characters, and also resolved some characters without killing them off.  The rebellion is far and wide and many players, etc. etc.

But I would have invested in five years of watching five seasons, and wanted to see more.


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